City council regular session 3/18/2025
0:00:00 Speaker: $888 and 73
0:00:02 Speaker: cents.
0:00:06 Speaker: It was paid in July of 2024.
0:00:08 Speaker: Right, we got installation,
0:00:10 Speaker: which was a separate, yes.
0:00:13 Speaker: And what was the installment?
0:00:17 Speaker: $1 ,915
0:00:18 Speaker: .36. Yes.
0:00:21 Speaker: I'm like, when was it actually installed?
0:00:25 Speaker: I believe it was on March 3?
0:00:31 Speaker: It was installed
0:00:33 Speaker: in the last council meeting.
0:00:35 Speaker: We discussed it, but we did
0:00:37 Speaker: not have the
0:00:38 Speaker: event We haven't completed
0:00:39 Speaker: yet,
0:00:40 Speaker: but we don't
0:00:41 Speaker: have the invoice yet,
0:00:42 Speaker: so...
0:00:43 Speaker: You know,
0:00:44 Speaker: just a blower, that big blower that sits on the outside?
0:00:49 Speaker: Uh,
0:00:51 Speaker: did you tell me something
0:00:52 Speaker: about this
0:00:53 Speaker: station?
0:00:56 Speaker: Yes.
0:00:59 Speaker: Well,
0:01:04 Speaker: probably not, because this is
0:01:06 Speaker: for your
0:01:06 Speaker: February. Oh, okay. So
0:01:08 Speaker: it's in flavor. Come
0:01:09 Speaker: on your March, but I can't go ahead and tell you that. Yes please. Okay so on the 13th Thursday the 13th approximately eight o 'clock in the morning and you'll hear it again because of the council meeting I'll have a picture system for you. The angular station overflowed which was reported to TCEQ. They went out and they treated it. The altercation was due to a pump that had burned
0:01:37 Speaker: up
0:01:37 Speaker: and
0:01:38 Speaker: that pump was removed
0:01:40 Speaker: and then of course we had to keep
0:01:41 Speaker: removing
0:01:42 Speaker: the sludge as it built
0:01:43 Speaker: up
0:01:44 Speaker: to
0:01:45 Speaker: keep it from
0:01:46 Speaker: overflowing again and then
0:01:48 Speaker: I believe it was that same night [name] as I corrected about 9 p
0:01:52 Speaker: .m. the second second pump went out. Yes. [name] station. It was due to feminine products and
0:02:07 Speaker: And that's a very important point we want everybody to get in our hands.
0:02:12 Speaker: That's what's burning these pumps up is
0:02:14 Speaker: costing every one of us money every
0:02:16 Speaker: time you flush those wipes and family products.
0:02:19 Speaker: So we really really need
0:02:21 Speaker: to get that out to our neighbors.
0:02:22 Speaker: They're not flushable.
0:02:24 Speaker: Don't flush those.
0:02:25 Speaker: If you read all the package
0:02:27 Speaker: it says
0:02:27 Speaker: not flushable. Yeah
0:02:29 Speaker: it says out here
0:02:30 Speaker: flushable.
0:02:31 Speaker: but then on the
0:02:32 Speaker: package in the
0:02:33 Speaker: little letters it says not flexible
0:02:34 Speaker: and
0:02:35 Speaker: hopefully
0:02:35 Speaker: when you get your when
0:02:38 Speaker: you get your report because they're always one
0:02:39 Speaker: month behind right and
0:02:41 Speaker: we'll have the actual cost of those
0:02:43 Speaker: I know sometimes they try to rebuild the pump if it's able to be rebuilt versus [name] or
0:02:49 Speaker: something mm
0:02:50 Speaker: -hmm
0:02:51 Speaker: but you're looking
0:02:51 Speaker: anywhere between three and six thousand
0:02:54 Speaker: dollars
0:02:54 Speaker: a pop. [name]. [name].
0:02:58 Speaker: And
0:02:59 Speaker: every bit of that goes towards the city's cost of operations. So what that means like right now, they're in the midst of doing a rent analysis.
0:03:09 Speaker: Of course, that right analysis is for 2024.
0:03:11 Speaker: But things like this that are happening into the 2025 are going to affect that rent analysis. It
0:03:17 Speaker: directly
0:03:18 Speaker: attacks
0:03:19 Speaker: your bill. What you pay, what your what your customers what your citizens
0:03:25 Speaker: pay
0:03:26 Speaker: for a souvenir it is directly
0:03:28 Speaker: related to the cost of
0:03:29 Speaker: operations so
0:03:31 Speaker: it's imperative that the public
0:03:32 Speaker: and
0:03:33 Speaker: this is not just a hot coke problem this is all I talked to
0:03:36 Speaker: other operators out of like other cities around and other cities like [name]
0:03:40 Speaker: and [name]
0:03:41 Speaker: it
0:03:42 Speaker: happens every day that people think they can
0:03:45 Speaker: flush those
0:03:46 Speaker: and it burns up the grinder pipe. I
0:03:48 Speaker: talked to a guy that does
0:03:49 Speaker: that stuff at the hospital.
0:03:50 Speaker: He said that he was he said good luck getting it out to get the
0:03:54 Speaker: public to stop doing
0:03:54 Speaker: it because they can't get the nurses at the hospital stop doing it.
0:03:58 Speaker: And of course, they're in there taking those
0:03:59 Speaker: lines
0:04:01 Speaker: of cards and everything.
0:04:03 Speaker: And I'll say it again, it costs the citizens of hot code
0:04:06 Speaker: money, everybody that's
0:04:08 Speaker: on that system, every time that
0:04:09 Speaker: happens, it goes towards
0:04:11 Speaker: the cost of operations,
0:04:14 Speaker: which is included in every single rate analysis,
0:04:16 Speaker: and it's going to
0:04:17 Speaker: cause the
0:04:18 Speaker: bill
0:04:18 Speaker: to go up.
0:04:21 Speaker: Really, really, really
0:04:22 Speaker: need to work on that.
0:04:24 Speaker: I had a question on the blower.
0:04:26 Speaker: Was that for a new one or was that rebuilt? That was a new one.
0:04:31 Speaker: Previously, there's three blowers that are supposed to be operational. Some years back, the system was broken
0:04:37 Speaker: into.
0:04:38 Speaker: We don't know why they stole the blower,
0:04:40 Speaker: but they stole it, leaving us two to run on.
0:04:44 Speaker: The two had
0:04:45 Speaker: gone out. That's why that number that I just gave you is really really important and that's how much it costs to to buy a big blower and
0:04:53 Speaker: to install it and the city fault code
0:04:56 Speaker: needs two more to be
0:04:57 Speaker: in compliance with
0:04:58 Speaker: TCEQ. Did we get any kind of warrant you would write?
0:05:03 Speaker: [name] be a question I'd
0:05:04 Speaker: have to ask. I don't know the answer. I don't think there's another chance
0:05:06 Speaker: for those because of
0:05:08 Speaker: the nature of the beast.
0:05:10 Speaker: Well, yeah, part of
0:05:11 Speaker: it, but you
0:05:12 Speaker: get some
0:05:12 Speaker: manufacturer malfunction.
0:05:14 Speaker: Right. It is your cost and the
0:05:16 Speaker: mayor had asked about it
0:05:17 Speaker: earlier and we had discussed it previously. That's why I wanted her to announce the numbers to you
0:05:22 Speaker: all. Write them down because
0:05:24 Speaker: you're fixing to have a duplicate not once but twice. We have two or three. You're
0:05:30 Speaker: supposed to have a total of three. We have one.
0:05:34 Speaker: We're going to see it two more times.
0:05:36 Speaker: Right. Two equals three because you've lost three.
0:05:47 Speaker: And they
0:05:48 Speaker: may have put
0:05:48 Speaker: another spot
0:05:49 Speaker: in case our
0:05:51 Speaker: permit became a larger volume at some time in the future if we're able to use the other tanks because the package plant was over
0:06:00 Speaker: -sized, over
0:06:01 Speaker: -built, so I think that if there is another spot that's
0:06:06 Speaker: why they haven't on us about doing another one because
0:06:09 Speaker: we're not using that time.
0:06:12 Speaker: Do we have any other questions on that? I'm good. Okay, thank you ma 'am. Thank you.
0:06:21 Speaker: Okay, moving on to item B, USDA update. We had USDA meetings on March
0:06:28 Speaker: the 4th. Communities Unlimited
0:06:31 Speaker: had requested additional information from the
0:06:34 Speaker: city and the city has
0:06:34 Speaker: been working on that. [name] from communities in
0:06:40 Speaker: limited informed us that their offices
0:06:42 Speaker: and several others were going to be closing.
0:06:45 Speaker: At that time they thought they were going to be closing at the end of March.
0:06:49 Speaker: And then at the meeting that we found
0:06:51 Speaker: out he had another month
0:06:52 Speaker: so he gets to stay until April. But even when
0:06:54 Speaker: it closes,
0:06:55 Speaker: they are continuing to
0:06:57 Speaker: work at home. It's not that they're closing down, they're just going to be working from home instead of
0:07:01 Speaker: from a building
0:07:02 Speaker: on that. that
0:07:03 Speaker: all the information was requested to be sent.
0:07:12 Speaker: [name] spoke of special circumstances
0:07:13 Speaker: on their original note that was allowing
0:07:16 Speaker: for the reauthorization of the loan that we did not get into deep discussion about.
0:07:24 Speaker: But we did discuss that
0:07:26 Speaker: if
0:07:27 Speaker: and when we do, something for y 'all to think about,
0:07:32 Speaker: did we want to
0:07:33 Speaker: have monthly
0:07:34 Speaker: payments
0:07:34 Speaker: or
0:07:36 Speaker: if we wanted
0:07:37 Speaker: quarterly payments
0:07:38 Speaker: or if we wanted it twice a
0:07:40 Speaker: year like it is
0:07:40 Speaker: now if we reorganized
0:07:42 Speaker: would we want those
0:07:44 Speaker: payments around remember
0:07:45 Speaker: you have your one monthly
0:07:46 Speaker: payment and then you have
0:07:48 Speaker: twice a year right
0:07:50 Speaker: he had mentioned
0:07:51 Speaker: that y 'all should all be thinking
0:07:58 Speaker: about that, which because we
0:08:00 Speaker: all have different
0:08:01 Speaker: opinions on how that would work.
0:08:03 Speaker: And we will have a workshop coming
0:08:05 Speaker: up soon,
0:08:07 Speaker: soon soon as [name] gets the
0:08:12 Speaker: Yeah,
0:08:13 Speaker: the only thing I had on that mayor is for the council to think about that.
0:08:19 Speaker: I think you'll recall that we discussed it today.
0:08:24 Speaker: you're paying $1 ,800 a
0:08:26 Speaker: month, is that right? $1
0:08:27 Speaker: ,800 a
0:08:28 Speaker: month and
0:08:29 Speaker: then we were paying $24
0:08:30 Speaker: ,000 once
0:08:32 Speaker: in August,
0:08:33 Speaker: once in February. If they change it, I can't remember the name of the board that they said would be responsible to make that determination.
0:08:41 Speaker: I don't know that that's going to be us as the city.
0:08:45 Speaker: But I don't think it's a great idea to start the city
0:08:48 Speaker: out on a
0:08:50 Speaker: monthly payment because of
0:08:52 Speaker: how the income comes in on your ad loan
0:08:54 Speaker: tax to your interest in sinking fund because it's not it's not a number that you can count on monthly you know the first few months of the year people are paying their taxes and then after that it can just kind of trickle in. What I'm afraid of is if they go that route and
0:09:08 Speaker: maybe setting the city up for
0:09:10 Speaker: inadvertently
0:09:11 Speaker: defaulting
0:09:12 Speaker: because
0:09:14 Speaker: the money
0:09:14 Speaker: has This is
0:09:15 Speaker: something I want
0:09:16 Speaker: Council to think about and we
0:09:18 Speaker: will have it at the workshop and we will discuss that in more detail and full detail
0:09:22 Speaker: about what
0:09:23 Speaker: we think. And we'll find out more information.
0:09:25 Speaker: And get more information for you. Yes
0:09:27 Speaker: ma 'am. Because there's going to be a lot of information coming in on this workshop.
0:09:32 Speaker: And the purpose for this, also the service.
0:09:35 Speaker: [name] me? The
0:09:36 Speaker: service extra
0:09:37 Speaker: momentum is also to be considered. Right,
0:09:40 Speaker: yeah. The payments.
0:09:42 Speaker: Yes. Yes. yes yes
0:09:44 Speaker: but we all
0:09:45 Speaker: have our opinions on that and we'll all stay them with
0:09:47 Speaker: the workshop and
0:09:48 Speaker: discuss it and see what we think or all
0:09:50 Speaker: think
0:09:51 Speaker: yes
0:09:54 Speaker: yes ma 'am and
0:09:56 Speaker: then on
0:09:56 Speaker: today
0:09:57 Speaker: communities
0:10:00 Speaker: unlimited
0:10:00 Speaker: was telling us that they got
0:10:01 Speaker: to say another
0:10:02 Speaker: month and
0:10:03 Speaker: chatted
0:10:08 Speaker: asked for information through email
0:10:11 Speaker: and text did they did we Did you get that information finished or is that something that you're still working
0:10:18 Speaker: on? No, that's something
0:10:19 Speaker: we're still working on. You're still
0:10:20 Speaker: working on that information.
0:10:21 Speaker: But I
0:10:21 Speaker: don't know what it is, but it sounded like he was still working on the rate study without that.
0:10:27 Speaker: What it was
0:10:27 Speaker: was the financial stuff.
0:10:29 Speaker: He's wanting the reports that come from the red line system, which is the billing system.
0:10:36 Speaker: So the financial
0:10:37 Speaker: teams had to work diligently to try to figure out how to get that red line system to produce the particular types of reports. That's been the whole boat.
0:10:48 Speaker: Okay and
0:10:49 Speaker: the
0:10:50 Speaker: USDA did
0:10:51 Speaker: state and the [name] stated
0:10:52 Speaker: that they did receive the
0:10:54 Speaker: $1 ,800 payment which is an interest payment on 15th
0:10:58 Speaker: so that's new payment as well.
0:11:05 Speaker: We asked about
0:11:06 Speaker: getting
0:11:07 Speaker: the paperwork
0:11:09 Speaker: showing
0:11:09 Speaker: what
0:11:10 Speaker: the city had
0:11:11 Speaker: paid entirely from where go to now and where would we
0:11:15 Speaker: asked for this information and
0:11:17 Speaker: that was supposed to be sent over so that that information
0:11:20 Speaker: could be done
0:11:21 Speaker: and gotten before
0:11:23 Speaker: we have this workshop so we know exactly what
0:11:25 Speaker: we paid, what it went on, and where it
0:11:26 Speaker: went
0:11:27 Speaker: from
0:11:28 Speaker: the word go.
0:11:30 Speaker: As much as they can find
0:11:31 Speaker: on their antiquated
0:11:32 Speaker: system.
0:11:33 Speaker: Yes, as much as
0:11:34 Speaker: I can find for
0:11:35 Speaker: us, we are supposed to be getting that for that workshop. Do you have anything else, Ms. [name]? I
0:11:50 Speaker: think
0:11:51 Speaker: we covered pretty
0:11:53 Speaker: much this meeting didn't have an awful
0:11:54 Speaker: lot,
0:11:55 Speaker: almost
0:11:55 Speaker: reiterating
0:11:57 Speaker: what
0:11:57 Speaker: we had said before from the last meeting.
0:12:00 Speaker: I can't wait for the workshop, that's what I would just really down y 'all to get to get y 'all's hands into it and get your questions ready for it. Oh we
0:12:09 Speaker: also discussed, I'll never mind if that was at the USDA
0:12:11 Speaker: meeting, it was after that.
0:12:15 Speaker: Let's get that.
0:12:18 Speaker: Okay, do we have any questions?
0:12:21 Speaker: There's no action.
0:12:29 Speaker: Questions? Okay, moving on
0:12:32 Speaker: to,
0:12:33 Speaker: so
0:12:37 Speaker: you
0:12:39 Speaker: had a meeting today then. Yes, ma 'am. Well, I thought you
0:12:42 Speaker: said 3 -4, but you had it
0:12:44 Speaker: today also. Yes, I said it today
0:12:46 Speaker: also. I'm
0:12:47 Speaker: sorry, ma 'am. Yeah,
0:12:48 Speaker: you missed it out.
0:12:48 Speaker: I'm sorry, I started
0:12:49 Speaker: 3 -4. Okay.
0:12:52 Speaker: All right. That was progressive, restorative. What was the timeframe on getting the payment history back?
0:12:58 Speaker: we don't have that yet but before the workshop and workshop is supposed
0:13:03 Speaker: to be in just a few
0:13:04 Speaker: weeks
0:13:05 Speaker: probably
0:13:09 Speaker: more towards
0:13:10 Speaker: the end of April
0:13:11 Speaker: because
0:13:12 Speaker: he's having to move around
0:13:13 Speaker: and do classes and stuff it's slowing our rate study down so because he has classes [name] has classes he's having to do as well so he's trying to get it done as fast as he can but yeah
0:13:24 Speaker: right and let
0:13:25 Speaker: me make it clear mayor that the the information that he originally asked for to be put together for the rate analysis had already been given to him what he's what he's asked for now was additional
0:13:37 Speaker: things that were not in the original list which is the reason
0:13:40 Speaker: for the delay so it
0:13:42 Speaker: didn't right
0:13:43 Speaker: that wasn't in the list so
0:13:45 Speaker: we didn't know he wanted it I'm not sure he knew until he got in there and started looking and
0:13:49 Speaker: decided he needed some
0:13:51 Speaker: more information
0:13:52 Speaker: Do
0:13:52 Speaker: you know what they're asking for?
0:13:56 Speaker: No. It's financials. What she's saying will go about the red line system
0:14:00 Speaker: improvements.
0:14:01 Speaker: That's billing.
0:14:02 Speaker: [name] the financials.
0:14:03 Speaker: Yeah.
0:14:03 Speaker: Yeah, he wanted numbers off the red line system. Whatever.
0:14:07 Speaker: Part of the reason is
0:14:08 Speaker: the
0:14:09 Speaker: customer's number
0:14:11 Speaker: had fluctuated. Remember, this
0:14:14 Speaker: is being done for 2024. So the customer number had fluctuated throughout the course of 24, so your numbers aren't going to stay the same
0:14:22 Speaker: because that's going to be changing
0:14:23 Speaker: as we roll along and get more customers and I believe we're up to 225. Is
0:14:29 Speaker: that correct?
0:14:32 Speaker: 205.
0:14:33 Speaker: I'm sorry, 205. 205.
0:14:36 Speaker: Oh, okay. But
0:14:38 Speaker: some of those houses aren't
0:14:39 Speaker: even built or moved in, so actual, it's probably 200 that are.
0:14:46 Speaker: Okay.
0:14:49 Speaker: But that's what changes in the system. like if they pay for, you know, to add on to it or something
0:14:54 Speaker: like that. They're listed there,
0:14:56 Speaker: but they're not actually getting billed yet. That's why the number
0:14:58 Speaker: flips and waits and it's hard
0:15:00 Speaker: to come up with any exact number. And that may be a different number in three days. Correct. Okay. But not by a large margin, of course.
0:15:14 Speaker: Let's go on to item C. You see the fire report. There's no
0:15:17 Speaker: action on this as well.
0:15:53 Speaker: And just so y 'all know, this is
0:15:54 Speaker: public information. Anybody can get a copy of this.
0:15:58 Speaker: This
0:16:02 Speaker: just tells us whatever
0:16:04 Speaker: EMS
0:16:06 Speaker: or
0:16:06 Speaker: the emergency fire
0:16:08 Speaker: department was out.
0:16:12 Speaker: Yeah, that would be in the city
0:16:14 Speaker: of Hawk Cove and in our extra -territorial jurisdiction. Right.
0:16:21 Speaker: Yeah, that's if you're wondering why
0:16:22 Speaker: sometimes you might see a street on there that's not
0:16:24 Speaker: in the city limits. That's why.
0:16:27 Speaker: Well, it's nice that it's actually color -coded. Yeah.
0:16:33 Speaker: The most recent inside.
0:16:34 Speaker: I have
0:16:35 Speaker: a question.
0:16:36 Speaker: Yes, ma 'am.
0:16:36 Speaker: So the most recent fire that we had that resulted in those deaths,
0:16:42 Speaker: was that normal?
0:16:47 Speaker: That likely will be on your
0:16:48 Speaker: next, your next?
0:16:50 Speaker: 1349 North [name], is that right? Oh no. 1349?
0:16:55 Speaker: I was saying it was on the paper, so. It was a medical call by
0:17:01 Speaker: the... Exactly
0:17:02 Speaker: what date that was.
0:17:04 Speaker: It was on the North Fire. March 5th.
0:17:08 Speaker: I'm almost setting
0:17:08 Speaker: up for the
0:17:09 Speaker: other 11, 24 p .m. Well, yeah, I think the results are now.
0:17:15 Speaker: Yeah, I know, we do. I just went on the same as the medicals.
0:17:19 Speaker: I get that. I just don't know.
0:17:21 Speaker: Yeah, these were on
0:17:22 Speaker: behind, if you'll notice, today.
0:17:25 Speaker: Yeah, she was trying to
0:17:26 Speaker: point it out.
0:17:27 Speaker: This is February. [name]. Yeah, this is February.
0:17:29 Speaker: It won't be until March.
0:17:31 Speaker: Did I take this address, you
0:17:32 Speaker: think? No. It's going to start right up in March. This is February. I hear you're bouncing. I'm sorry you feel like it's the
0:17:38 Speaker: address, the social
0:17:39 Speaker: address that happened
0:17:40 Speaker: or not? No.
0:17:42 Speaker: Sorry. Because that happened in March.
0:17:44 Speaker: I gotcha. We haven't.
0:17:46 Speaker: No, I gotcha.
0:17:47 Speaker: I'll just go over
0:17:48 Speaker: that. Okay. We'll see you on the next one.
0:17:55 Speaker: We have no
0:17:56 Speaker: consecutive
0:17:57 Speaker: session for
0:17:58 Speaker: August
0:17:58 Speaker: 7th.
0:17:59 Speaker: We've heard from other people. Okay.
0:18:02 Speaker: No consideration of consecutive session.
0:18:04 Speaker: I didn't know. Okay.
0:18:06 Speaker: Sorry I should correct. Do we have any announcements?
0:18:14 Speaker: No announcements? No? I'm
0:18:16 Speaker: getting a motion
0:18:17 Speaker: to adjourn. I have a
0:18:18 Speaker: motion to adjourn. I have
0:18:20 Speaker: a motion to adjourn. Can I get a second?
0:18:23 Speaker: I have a second.
0:18:25 Speaker: All those in favor of adjourning. Aye.
0:18:31 Speaker: Opposed.
0:18:33 Speaker: This regular
0:18:34 Speaker: session, Hot Co. City All -[name].
0:18:36 Speaker: 18
0:18:36 Speaker: is now closed
0:18:41 Speaker: at
0:18:41 Speaker: 6 .52 pm.
0:18:47 Speaker: And we thank you all. All
0:18:48 Speaker: right,
0:18:49 Speaker: we're showing up. He's in the garage, dude. He's in the garage.